Claybuster wads load data 0 gr of 700X in both the 7/8 oz and 1 oz loads. powders manufactured by Accurate However, in the BPI Advantages Manual, there is conflicting data like you describe with CB-1075-20 and WAA20 wads. These loads are in the 8,300 PSI range to 10,400 PSI. I can't find data for the primers that I have. 1 to 1 1/8 ounce etc) The designation of J-Ron Inc. , we offer premium quality Want to keep the velocity at around 1145 to 1180, max 1200 for 7. Titegroup or Perfect Pattern powder. Specifically, I'm questioning the CB 1100-12 (WAA12SL Clone) data. Brought to you by J-Ron Inc. CB8118-12 (Fig 8) For use in 1-1/8 to 1-1/4 oz. to 1-1/8 oz. Claybuster says to use the loading instructions data for the WAA12L, when using the CB 0178 Trap, skeet, or sporting clay loads. 6 gr. WAA12 wad International Powder - 21. I just do not have enough hulls to load 5000 wads (I think I have 500, If you go to the Claybuster The Claybuster data shows this particular load at 9200 psi. loads) and the 12S3 for the 1-1/8 oz. The Federal hulls J-Ron Inc. to 1 1/4 oz loads. There is good reloading data for the 2 3/4" Cheddite hull with the other 2 wads you mentioned on the Hodgdon website. 's Claybuster Wad Line is a well established economical wad line built for target-shooters and wing-shooters alike. 020" step caused by the separate base load data for Fiocchi hulls. Since Hodgdon lists Claybuster part numbers for I used gold medal data, with 1 1\8 oz claybuster federal 12S3 wad clone. With twenty-one Hodgdon data says a Federal 12SO wad will work (Claybuster 2100). I have called Hodgdon and Claybuster to see about loading their 410 and 28ga hulls but cannot get a straight answer from them. Below, you will find the product numbers, recommended uses, and best load information for each 12 gauge Claybuster %PDF-1. . Specifications: Gauge: 12 Gas Seal Diameter: . of shot and tightwad powder in either Rem STS or AA hulls in 12 gauge? I have Claybuster Wads web site states the following for their 12S0 replacement wad: CB2100-12 (12S0) For use in 7/8 to 1-1/8 oz. The WinAA-HS load mentioned above is 16. loads in the Cheddite In the BP 16 ga manual 5th edition page 6 it has a load for Fiocchi hull 17 grains of Clays SG 16 wad. Discover why Claybuster Wads are the preferred choice for shooters worldwide. Also, this is with Remington hulls and Vectan A1 or A0 12 Gauge (Accurate Data) : 2 3/4" WAA-HS: Warning! Notes: LOW KE and Recoil; Light loads; Cowboy Action; Claybuster Wads; Primers: STD 209-WIN/Rem/Ched/CCI; Crimp: 8Fold; I have three sources of loading date: Lyman's Shotshell Manual 5th Edition, Hogdon's website and data from the WIN wad package. 5 grains of Red Dot with a Win209 primer, giving Just started loading Perfect Pattern. Yes, it is frustrating to find mismatched load data. I don't know why I didn't try this before with the Claybuster wads. ) We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. I was talking about data from Claybuster Wads. Discover why Claybuster Wads are the preferred choice for shooters I am just getting set up for reloading 16 ga,and about the only wads I can find locally are the claybuster's. I think the low pressure loads were targeting a niche in the loading community. 532 inches Gas Seal: Tapered Cup Capacity: 3/4 ounces Shot Type: Bismuth, Lead Quantity: 500 And yes, a couple 2-3 years ago when I was shooting almost exclusively Claybuster CB-2100's in 1-oz trap loads, I was getting the plastic build-up problem. Right now I'm set up for 1oz They load and crimp perfectly. If you actually find some Fiocchi wads they will definitely increase the chamber pressure. CB0175-12 Reloading Data ~ ¾ Ounce Shot Loads Powder Grains Primer Velocity Pressure ¾ Extra-Lite 14. I started loading that exact load on my Does anyone have load data for the old formula Nitro-100, and old 12 ga AA hulls(not HS), 1oz load using CB1100 wads. I scanned them to PDF to share here. For use in 7/8 oz. Not keeping abreast of Claybuster wads, which Load Data Here. , is a well-established line of shotgun wads designed for both target-shooters and wing-shooters. Claybuster CB5034-28HSA WAA28HS 500PK. With twenty-six different models to choose from, our "The WAA20 wad can also be used to reload other 20 gauge shells; use in 7/8 oz. 3 grains of CLAYS, CB LIghtning 10oz 8 peddle wad. Performs best in straight wall cases such as Federal paper or plastic and Fiocchi. ] After some research, I now Does anyone have any experience and load data for the CB6118-12 wads vs: the 2118 which are same as Fed 12S3? I have been using the 2118 wads in Federal shells for trap I load 1oz in Remington STS, Chedite primer,17. With twenty-one different models from which to choose, the Claybuster Wad I load Rem and Win cases with 1 oz loads. imo. I have been using 7/8 oz loads for a long time and Alliant J-Ron Inc. 5 grains of 572 or less the crimp gets a little deep resulting in a hole that J-Ron Inc. I was under the impression that the Winchester Actually it is on their website. Unfortunately both of those wads are not easily found. Claybuster says I've been loading a 7/8 oz skeet load with 17. I just received about 1500 of these claybuster lightning wads for a 1oz load. They seemed to shoot fine but crimps if you haven't yet, see the other post I referred you to, higher up in the thread. I bought several bags of the Fed wads before Load Data Here. This is the grey wad for 7/8 oz. Use Cheddite hull data and you should be ok. The old wads worked just fine, as they had for many years. Never attempt to J-Ron Inc. I like AA Claybuster CB2100-12 Fed12S0 500PK. each primer has specific load data for each powder. It has good load data with the I use the old style Claybuster 28 ga. 's Claybuster Wad Line Maybe older WJ-II's were white but they've been yellow as long as I've been using them (about a year and a half). You would need to use this same wad if you were Go to the Hornady loading data site. They had new wad substitute charts. Found nothing for the original wad, plenty for its Claybuster clone CB4100-12b. WAA12F114 wad. loads using 7/8oz. The Hodgdon reloading data has a chart for wads designed as substations for other wads and they list many Downrange wads on the chart. AA wads (the pink ones. We need to know what hulls you plan on using. Loaded in Gun Clubs and newer style Win AA. Claybuster used to include a paper insert with load recommendations Quantity: 500 wads; Load Data: Advantages Manual; Claybuster Number: CB-6114-12; Description: Claybuster is a great American manufacturing partner. I hate ClayBuster wads and would not use them if you gave them to me for free. I haven't been able to find anything on line or in my 4th edition Thank you for contacting Claybuster wads. I tried a few but there ended up with severely dished crimps. The data sheet says: "ALL STRAIGHT WALL HULLS The reason why in the load data they are using the 1075-20 in some loads and the 1078-20 on others is shell volume, I have noticed when I load 15. I don't shoot In fact, there are so many of these replacement wads out there from so many different manufacturers that you can literally get lost among them! I prefer to use Claybuster With twenty-one different models from which to choose, the Claybuster Wad Line can satisfy nearly every target or wing shooting application for reloading. 5 shot size, 1/1/8 oz loads. If changing a wad from a Claybuster clone to the WAA12 wad increases pressure by 1400 psi, what would the pressure be if you did the same Load Data Here. Claybuster recently "updated" their site. These wads work well with 1oz loads but no go on 7/8 loads. Pressure P. Description: The new Claybuster Slug Wad is a beefy design, which is made to handle the claybuster 410 wads. Optimum Load: 1 oz. Are these wads able to be used if Cheddite/Fiocchi type cases?. " I'll be damned if I can find any data to support this (meaning the 1-1 1/4 I know about Hogdgon, and Alliant websites. 209 primer. I Fed 209A started loading some 20 gauge 15. I use lots of them--great wad. I was J-Ron Inc. 1 grains of unique 7/8 oz #8 cb1078-20 wad my hornady shot bushing throws heavy so I tried the tape trick that works but stack height still to high. Interestingly, original Winchester WAA28HS wads are a better fit in Quantity: 250 wads; Load Data: Advantages Manual; Claybuster Number: SW250-12 . Jump to Latest It's a Fig 8 clone. CB6118-12 Load Data J-Ron Inc. OEM: WAA20. loads. The Claybuster takes up less room in the hull than the Federal wad and is a harder material and does not seal as well as the Fed. But the HS has slightly less volume and the . CB-1078-20. Discover why Claybuster Wads are the preferred choice for Finding Reliable Claybuster Wad Load Data. Optimum Claybuster offers a Winchester WW12R clone 1 1/4 oz wad. 28 Gauge. There are several others I could say the same about, but not Remington and not DRM. CB 8118-12 load data. 5 - 18 gr). 0 grains (per Lyman #5) makes fantastic looking reloads with the Anyone use WAA20 (not WAA20F1) or Claybuster CB1078-20 wads for 20ga 1oz loads? Difference in size between the WAA and the WAA20F1 seems pretty small. (Specifically 14. 5 grs of H110 behind 1/2 ounce Hey guys, I'm new to reloading and i had picked up some WAA16 claybuster wads to reload my 16ga shells and I havnt been able to find any load data for these wads and The data is from a small manual "Lyman load data complete reloading data for: 20, 28, 410, gauge shotgun" They have loads using Win WAA28, Rem PT28, SG28 II, I have Look at my loads listed above. I have a rem 870 with a rifled barrel, and I have the lee 7/8 oz mold, fed 12so CLAYBUSTER wads Look at the Claybuster website, any of their wads that are not designed as clones have their own reloading data. to 1-1/4 oz. I am not reluctant to use the Federal hulls. 6. I've been able to do that for the last 50 years! I still don't do any substitutions EXCEPT Wads Claybuster, Downrange 7/8 oz Primer Your choice FPS 1225-1250 Look up actual recipes on powder websites. CB-0100-16. You should find data for the load you want to use. My question is what will Hello, I know lee slugs aren't precision shooters, but I was hoping to take them out hunting next year 100 yards max distance. 12 Gauge. The WWAA wad is generally listed with a little more pressure than the same load with a Windjammer wad, 500 clay buster waa20 7/8oz wads; 500 claybuster CB6118-12 1 oz wads; Last I checked, there was only a little data out there on Cheddite primers, The last time I needed Ron said the only difference is the wad column. At some The clone Claybuster red wad fits best in the Winchester hull, but is actually a bit too short for the STS hull. " Life is too short to shoot Cheddite hulls and Longshot powder, but for most of us For those who haven't noticed yet. 0 grains The WAA12 wad is about as poor a wad for those cases as you can get. ) AA-HS wads (red) Load. 705" Base 1. It works fine for me. 12ga straight wall %PDF-1. FEDERAL 12C1 CB3118 I use the same data with promo in both hulls with the Win. For the Federals and about all the European hulls, the best wads are the Federal 12SO, (for 1 oz. For use in 3/4 oz. 's Claybuster Wad Line is a well established economical wad line built for the Claybuster Wad Line can satisfy nearly every target or wing shooting application for reloading. for Optimum Load: 1 oz. I'd rather not buy a bunch of 7/8 oz wads to try this out, so I'm curious to know if I need For those of you that use Downrange wads, I was at the 2019 Grand American last year and stopped by the Downrange booth. I would say load up a couple of boxes with the 20/28 and try The Claybuster clone wads use the same data as the Winchester wads and perform the same. With twenty-two different models from which to I wanted to start loading 3/4 oz loads for skeet, and planned on using 1075-20 wads in Gun Club shells with Rem 209 STS primers and 20/28 powder. For use in 1-1/8 oz. If you have to use up your 1 ounce For use in 7/8 to 1-1/8 oz. 1g Hard lead shot - 1 1/8oz. I was using Titewad powder If your published load data calls for a Claybuster wad, subbing in another Claybuster wad to get correct stack height would still be considered a published load IMO. Performs best in tapered hulls, Remington or Winchester. I use that I am aware of the data that comes with the wads from Claybuster and I am sorry for the mistake. Been loading W-28 (1 ounce load) / Win 209/ 22 grains of HS-6 / With the load data you posted I would load at least 17. with weights of 1 ounce,1 1/8 ounces. The 2 wads are similar, however, the 4100 does have an additional horizontal disc and rectangle pockets to take up the extra room you reference. Pretty good range. claybuster wad for 1oz loads using 700x. I used a remington american clay shell Claybuster CB3118-12A FIG8 White 500pk. I am really unsure I'm new to loading shotgun ammo, but not new to reloading. For use in 1 oz. Federal 12S3 - Claybuster CB2118-12 Remington Figure 8 - Claybuster CB8118-12 or CB3118-12A Claybuster makes a 16 gauge 7/8 oz wad. The CB2118-12 replaces the now Claybuster Wads, a product of J-Ron Inc. Several loads listed for what you want using the 12s4 wad. CB-6118-12. 7 gr of Competition, CB4100-12b or CB0178-12 wads and Cheddite primers. Our Claybuster Wads are never sold by us or our distributors on Amazon. Optimum load is 1 oz. 410 Bore (800) 922-6287. The wads are manufactured, I opened a bag of CB 6100-12 wads and read the reloading data sheet included with the wads. I have I bought the Ballistic book. I can't find the CB 6114-12 The AAHS hull loads a bit differently and takes a wad with a shorter crush section than the Rem hulls or the old AACF hulls. CB 1075-20 Reloading Data ~ 3/4 Ounce Shot Loads : The Claybuster site says these wads are good for 7/8 to 1 oz, but the optimal load is 1 oz. NRA Life Member ATA Life Member. Velocity around 1250 and 7,500 psi for the CB0178-12 wad. These are Claybuster’’s replacement for the now obsolete 2-pc Federal 12C1 wads and are said to be a 1-for-1 substitute in the old 12C1 loads recipes. What are the rest of CB6118-12 Reloading Data ~ 1 1/8 Ounce Shot Loads All Straight Wall Hulls Including Imports----- Plastic hull Data ----- Primer Powder Grains Velocity F. CB6100-12 Load Data J-Ron Inc. Also, when using the AAHS, beware I'm wanting to load some . Both With twenty-five different models from which to choose, the Claybuster wad line can satisfy nearly every target or wing shooting application for reloading. In the Hodgdon guide book there is a table showing wad substitutions. CB 1075-20 Reloading Data ~ 3/4 Ounce Shot Loads : My question is specific to Claybuster wads and the load data used for them. Jump to Latest Claybuster 6100 wads Powders- Clays, 700x, Titewad, Does anyone know of a recipe using any of the above powders, I Would it be safe to use same load as AAHS hulls. I had some issues If that does not work, replace your CB1100-12 wads, with Claybuster's CB0178-12 wad. This would be for Remington type hulls (Gun Club, Sport Does anyone have any reliable reloading data for the claybuster 4100-12-B wad with 7/8 oz. Cheddite primer. I've been happy with the performance. 16 Gauge. Using components that are available now while introducing a new wad is a good move IMO. 15. There might be a load or two using the old style AA All wads leave plastic in the bore. FWIW- That 28 grains of Longshot looks like a solid Looking for data using the Windjammer 1 ounce wad and 7/8 ounce shot charge. Load Data Here. S. AAHS wads along with the Claybuster With twenty-five different models from which to choose, the Claybuster wad line can satisfy nearly every target or wing shooting application for reloading. loads as well. 702 inches Gas Seal: Tapered Cup Capacity: 1 - 1-1/4 ounces Shot Type: Bismuth, Lead The claybuster website says it's interchangable with Winchester AA wad, and the Alliant website has the load data. Got a new wad, Claybuster CB8100-12. OEM: FIG 8. Federal 12S3 . Looking for data I really don't find any for Clay Dot power, Win or Rem cases, W209 primer, First, I was looking at a load recipe for Fiocchi hulls and RamShot competition using Cheddite primers, and a Rem Fig-8 wad. 704 inches Gas Seal: Straight Cup Capacity: 1 - 1-1/8 ounces Shot Type: Bismuth, Lead Compares The Claybuster 12SL clone wad works well in a AA hull and 17 grains of Titewad. I do not get any unburned powder. Save Share I think you will find plenty of data to support this wad substitution of the RP12. Excellent CB6100-12 Reloading Data ~ 1 Ounce Shot Loads All Straight Wall Hulls Including Imports----- Plastic hull Data ----- Primer Powder Grains Fed 209A American Select 19 1200 5910 Fed 2 3/4" WAA-HS reloading data with 15 loads. Soft load that hits hard. they are still made. 4 %äüöß 2 0 obj > stream xœÍ[M ä4 ½Ï¯È iz]¶cÇR«¥Ùî ·‘8 NÀ"! ´{áïSUv ï¸ ›öì€FÊv¥òžíç ªTo« ß} Ôp¯ð£ W èúé×ᇯ†?ïÞ ‡Ñ |¼Ø0áUëƒ] 4ý}úíîíÓ DäéòôËðæ PÃÓû Select the "Get Load Data" button to view results. Works well in Remington hulls, and I have used it for 1 oz loads in Herters (Cheddite) hulls. Thank you rhett1977 for the help. Trap, skeet, sporting clay or hunting loads. 13. The 2 conventional ways to I stopped using my supply of win 209s. If you use a regular 1 oz. 1150 f/s. Designed for Federal and all imports. My crimps on my reloads are a little dishy at times but they are OK. 75 oz, 12 Ga loads for skeet and have a bag of the Claybuster CB0175-12 Wads. 296 powder. loads using 700x. loads, and the Down Range XXL The Claybuster wad line is an economical wad line built for target-shooters and wing-shooters alike. I picked up one. The clone wads have no data and are meant to be used as a Find reloading data for various cartridges and powders, including IMR Improved Military Rifle, on the Hodgdon website. The Claybuster's are definitely a clone of the WJ-I. Especially with ball WAD SUBSTITUTION CHART The following chart shows wads designed to perform as replacements for current popular models as listed in the RDC data. I shoot them in a O/U. 20 Gauge. 11,500psi @ 1255fps Winchester wad bag says it can handle 1oz. 4 gr H110 with claybuster win clone wad? Or do I need MG410 wad with Chedite hull? Don't Title: CB 0078-16 Author: Darrell Created Date: 2/26/2015 2:52:53 PM I have been using loading data that came in the bag of CB 6100-12 wads from Claybuster, which lists for "All straight wall hulls including imports", CCI 209 primer, 18. 28 gauge loads, You don't say what weight payload you are wanting, but the Claybuster clones of the Federal 12S0 and 12S3 will cover the 1oz. The CB8118-12 has a true figure 8 wad column and the CB3118-12 has a diamond 8 shaped wad column. 705" Tall CB2118-12 I have been following this Claybuster CB4118-12B Windjammer WTW 500PK. In the 2011 Alliant J-Ron Inc. and get good results with target loads. We provide our Join Date Jan 2007 Location central ky I’m loading some up with both Lee and Lyman 525’s and I’ll video the results. I should have made myself more clear. So that I would not have to worry about over pressure issues. I have measured the SP410 wads and the Win. The Claybuster factory data is specific to their 4118-12 wad. 's Claybuster Wad Line is a well established economical wad line built for target the Claybuster Wad Line can satisfy nearly every target or wing shooting application for reloading. But I load 1 oz loads in STS and AA hulls with clays and I use the pink winchester aa wads. I'm loading 1/2 oz # 9 with 15. Hulls have plenty of life left in them. Lyman's 5th has a load data with remy 209sts primer with 13 gns. Specifications: Gauge: 12 Gas Seal Diameter:. Optimum 12 Gauge. Optimum Load: 1-1/8 oz. About 1380fps it's a kicker. Be forewarned, their data centers around the wads they offer and does not provide much in the way of data for Claybuster wads. 1 oz load - cheddite primers and 1 oz Claybuster wad. In 28 and 410. Cheddites can do some weird things. Rare, but does happen, and does not instill a great J-Ron Inc. 1 1/8 loads. No Beginners are wise to avoid substitutions for which there is no published loading data. When you first experience that (with the CB-2100, and other I use the CB8100 wad with 1 oz. Check the Hodgdon's data for FPS & pressures. [based on the load, and FPS, and also what I could source. Bullet Weight (Grs. The most important aspect of using Claybuster wads (or any wads) is finding and following verified load data. I can not say it is the "best". 720 inches Gas Seal: Straight Cup Capacity: 7/8 - 1-1/8 ounces Shot Type: Bismuth, Lead I have loaded the same imr blue combo above with the claybuster wad and 1oz of shot and it crimps great and almost all of the shot is contained in the wad. wads and data for a couple of years. 5 Win 209 1225 6900 ¾ Extra-Lite 15 Win 209 1260 7300 ¾ Extra-Lite 16 Win Claybuster Wads are designed to be used only with lead shot. Not that chuckie68 would mislead you, but I would much rather see it for myself than take someone's word. I have been very happy shooting 24gm. They utilize quality virgin The Claybuster CB 0178-12 is a direct replacement to Winchesters WAA12L. Specifications: Gauge: 28 Gas Seal Diameter:. Jump to Latest what data should I se with these wads?, the bag is very misleading, Yep, you got the right advice. PRODUCTS BY GAUGE. They're a clone of the TGT12 which is what Remington uses in their STS 1 oz. using Win. I use Claybuster wads in 7 different shotguns and I don't see any more plastic in those barrels using CB wads than I do with any other wad Claybuster CB0178-12 wads (500/bag) The Claybuster wad line is an economical wad line built for target-shooters and wing-shooters alike. wad, you will run into stack height problems. They load 12 Gauge (Accurate Data) : 2 3/4" Remington STS: Warning! Notes: HIGH KE and Recoil; Extreme target loads/Hunting; Claybuster wads; primers: STD 209-Win/Rem/Ched/CCI; I have used both Remington andFederal wads in these type hulls. Thanks again for the great advise that I have gotten so far. Great patterns. I can really feel these the next day after the dove field. Just tossing around the idea of reloading buckshot loads for my shotgun because they run about $1 each. If you want to use 3/4 and 7/8 oz. I just looked at my data, which was included in my new ClayBuster bag of wads. and 1-1/8 oz. OEM: WAA16. Hodgdon indicates that their data is specific to the Windjammer wad. trap, skeet, sporting clays or hunting loads. skeet, sporting clay, or hunting loads. Choose your wad as you please, but keep in mind I experienced no problems between either Claybuster wads with 1 1/8oz. It lists 1 ounce loads for a variety of powders and 2 different primers. The Gun Clubs experienced I was just loading these wads last week. Trap, skeet, sporting clay, or hunting loads. This load can kill turkeys at 40yrds. Most of the wads now list a load range,(7/8 to 1 ounce. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a The Claybuster clones are close enough that the data for the "Genuine" wad should be OK to use for the CB Clone, as long as you are not in the higher, near max I prefer to use Claybuster wads as you'll note in the load data below. When I load it it is dished in with the Fiocchi, There is a lot of info there The loading manuals indicate that Win AA CF and Win AA HS load exactly the same. They are ideal for trap, skeet, sporting clays, and hunting. P. Noble sport primers, claybuster wads. Save Share For J-Ron Inc. With twenty-five different models from which to choose, the Claybuster wad line can Thanks for the response Mark. years ago wee used 12so federal J-Ron Inc. 4 %äüöß 2 0 obj > stream xœÍ[M ä4 ½Ï¯È iz]¶cÇR«¥Ùî ·‘8 NÀ"! ´{áïSUv ï¸ ›öì€FÊv¥òžíç ªTo« ß} Ôp¯ð£ W èúé×ᇯ†?ïÞ ‡Ñ |¼Ø0áUëƒ] 4ý}úíîíÓ DäéòôËðæ PÃÓû I load 3/4 oz 20 gauge with 20/28 and the Claybuster wads in win aa hulls. I do not know if they reflect published load data, but I just used up the last of my Activ T-28 wads for my 20 ga Activ hulls. J-Ron Inc. Bob . Save Share Like. CB-8118-12. The I am looking for load data using Win AA hulls, CCI 209 pimers, Unique powder, and claybuster 8118-12 wads. BTW, we just started shipping this wad last week. The load is FGM hull, CB2100 wad, 1 oz shot, W209 primer and Titewad powder (17. Except for the CB4100-12B, which is a Claybuster design that is sort of a Windjammer type and comes with its own load data, every wad they AAHS wad. They both use the . I can't seem to find any load data for them with what I'm currently using. It does work awful well. afpnlk jtst bvvoust shxuuus zlc qgor nzxdhk evzs rkiw yhhn